October 19, 2011

Wednesday Wisdom

I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down at us. Pigs treat us as

Will Rogers Sir Winston Churchill


  1. geofff9:11 AM

    I think Winston Churchill said something very close to that first.

  2. Anonymous9:20 AM

    Quotation #772 from Michael Moncur's (Cynical) Quotations: I like pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals. Sir Winston Churchill ...


  3. geoffff9:39 AM

    Speaking of pigs, here are some of the Palestinian "freedom fighters" who SBS reported "had been imprisoned for carrying out commando raids in Israel", released back in their Hamas hellhole.

    Abd al-Hadi Ghanim: In July 1989, during the first Intifada, Gaza resident Abd al-Hadi Ghanim grabbed the steering wheel of a Tel Aviv-to-Jerusalem bus on Israel's main highway and steered it into a ravine. Sixteen people were killed.
    * Yihia al-Sinwar: A founder of Hamas’ military wing, Yihia al-Sinwar was involved in the October 1994 kidnapping of Sgt. Nachshon Wachsman, an Israeli soldier who had American citizenship. Wachsman was killed by his captors during a rescue attempt several days later by Israeli commandos. Al-Sinwar's brother is believed to have been an organizer of Gilad Shalit’s abduction.
    * Aziz Salha: In October 2000, Aziz Salha produced one of the most horrifying images of the second intifada. He was photographed proudly waving his bloodstained hands out of the window of a Ramallah police station after participating in a lynch mob that broke into the building and beat to death two Israeli reservists who had been taken into Palestinian custody there after making a wrong turn into the city. An Israeli court convicted him of the murder of Cpl. Vadim Norzich.
    * Mona Awana: In January 2001, West Bank resident Mona Awana, pretending to be an American with a romantic interest in an Israeli high school student, used the Internet to lure 16-year-old Ofir Rahum to meet her in Jerusalem. They then drove Rahum to a prearranged location on Ramallah’s outskirts, where he was shot and killed by Palestinian gunmen.
    * Fuad Amrin: In May 1992, Gaza resident Fuad Amrin stabbed to death 15-year-old Helena Rapp on her way to school in the Israeli city of Bat Yam.
    * Husam Badran: As the leader of Hamas’ military wing in the northern West Bank, Husam Badran was the instigator of several of the deadliest suicide bombings of the second intifada, including the 2001 bombing attacks on a Sbarro pizzeria in Jerusalem (15 killed), the Dolphinarium discotheque bombing in Tel Aviv (21 killed), the 2002 suicide bombings of a Passover seder at the Park Hotel in Netanya (30 killed) and the bombing of the Matza restaurant in Haifa (15 killed). More than 100 people were killed in terrorist attacks directed by Badran.
    * Tamimi Ahlam: In August 2001, Tamimi Ahlam, a female university student and journalist originally from Jordan, led a suicide bomber to the downtown Jerusalem Sbarro pizzeria where he detonated himself, killing 15 people, including seven children.
    * Walid Anajas: Hamas operative Walid Anajas assisted with the 2002 suicide bombings at Jerusalem's Cafe Moment (11 killed) and a gaming club in Rishon LeZion (16 killed), and the remotely detonated bombing of a cafeteria at the Mount Scopus campus of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, which killed nine people, including four Americans.

    [via Daphne Anson]

  4. Ah, Will Rogers was just remembering lines then.

    Corrected to Winston attribute ....

    (I must have sourced from a US site, and they might prefer to believe that Rogers made up his own lines. Churchill who?)

  5. A gut wrenching decision Geoffff.

    I was revolted to read some of the questions asked of that (still) young man, barely free for minutes ...

    "He was asked about the thousands of Palestinian prisoners who remain in Israeli jails"

    Truly unfair. Should never have been asked of him, not now, not ever. Besides, being held captive for five years and being a soldier does not lend weight or moral authority to his responses.

    Gutter politics, gutter journalism.

  6. Anonymous8:08 PM

    I haven't got a clue what a wise Winnie quote has got to do with your cause Geoff, but methinks a little bit of Freud may have slipped into your above:

    "Speaking of pigs"


    "Pigs treat us as equals."

    There ya go.


  7. geoffff11:45 PM

    No Freud at all Justin. I actually considered your point before posting from the point of view of the pigs (my favourite farm animals)

    It was you who assumed I was defaming pigs by assuming I was comparing, even equating, them to the human filth you thought I was.

    I was not. I would happily live with 1000 pigs before a single Hamas terrorist. 1027 in fact if you insist on a figure.

  8. geoffff12:26 AM

    It was actually even worse than that Caz.

    Here's an account of how he was treated by the Egyptian media (and BBC) while still in the grip of Hamas.


  9. Anonymous7:56 AM

    From the pigs perspective I'm glad you cleared that one up Geoff. Comparing pigs with human beings must be a right insult to pigs. I like pigs too.


  10. geoffff9:08 AM

    I don't like feral pigs. I know a bloke who used to shoot these dangerous vermin for nothing but you need an automatic shotgun to do that safely and the Government stopped licensing them.

    Personally I think the govt should not only license them but hand out free ammo.

  11. geoffff9:40 AM

    "Rabbi Neseneoff notes that many of the 25,000 items of hate mail he has received since he made Helen Thomas's words known contain explicit obscene stuff, by no means always anonymous, the senders having no shame.

    "Observing that he reports those messages that contain death threats against him to the police, he asks rhetorically: "Who do I call about the death threat against the Jewish People?""

    Exactly. If you haven't got the moral courage to stick up for the Jews at a time like now then you should at least summons the bare basic decency to shut the fuck up.

  12. geoffff9:55 AM