April 22, 2012

Left luvvies antisemitism looks ugly up close

It's difficult not to squawk:  "won't someone think of the children" when thinking or saying anything about the never-ending and exasperating Israeli / Palestine conflict. 

It's also difficult to support the expansion of the occupied territories, the wall to partition Palestinians off from access to anything at all, the day to day reality of Palestinians lined up at crossing boarders for hours on end just to go an buy some food, or supposedly to go to work (you'd figure none of them have fixed hours, right, because the conditions over there are rather worse than trying to get to work on time on a loop train in Melbourne). 

There are many reasons to be appalled, on both sides, and the anti-Israel arguments, if presented without too much detail, can be superficially seductive, which is why it's a good idea to take a cold shower once in a while.

The left has singled out Israel, for particular attention - for protests and boycotts and demonising.  Not China, not Zimbabwe, not the government of the Congo, not Mexico, where the murder rate is about 40,000 people every year, not Iran, not Afghanistan.  Not even a blink of concern for the citizens of North Korea or Cuba.  The worst of the worst, with so many truly ugly, evil, barbaric, brutal regimes to choose from - so the left tell us - is Israel; and the most sympathetic, and in need of support community in the world is Palestine. 

There is, when you look at this absurd assertion objectively, something wrong in the extreme, and it does, as time goes by, and the shrillness gets louder, begin to look more and more like mindless antisemitism than a legitimate concern with the well being of any Palestinian.  It starts to look like a deeply misguided first world indulgence.  (Much like anguish over the perpetual pending environmental Armageddon being a first world privilege.)
... the avoidance of Israel and all its ideas and wares has become a weird way of life for some people, where the aim isn't to achieve tangible political goals but rather an inner sensation of super moral smugness.
Hating Israel is no longer a serious political stance so much as a cultural signifier. It's one of the key ways through which the chattering classes now advertise their decency, their caring streak, their loathing of "evil" and their pity for "victims".

And therefore, the more conspicuous they can make their loathing of Israel, the more loudly and colourfully they can declare it, the better. That is why they constantly write letters to newspapers, tell everyone that they studiously avoid Israeli shops, and wear the Yasser Arafat-inspired keffiyeh - because these are all signifiers of moral worth and thus must be made visible to all and sundry.

Hating Israel is now like wearing a red ribbon for AIDS or making a virtue of eating only organic foodstuffs.
British luvvies' anti-Israel stance achieves nothing


28 comments:

  1. Anonymous7:33 PM

    A NEW ailment is spreading through the chattering classes. Symptoms include an aversion to art or literature created in Israel, an intolerance of all foodstuffs produced in Israel, and an allergy to the Israeli flag, the Israeli football team and Israeli professors. If you or any of your friends have those symptoms, get help: it is possible you're suffering from Israel Sensitivity Disorder.

    Sanctions and blockades have always only been a tool to get those most disadvantaged, the punters, to turn on their leaders (who live in luxury no matter what). It's a repugnant tactic and does little good except fuck up the lives of those innocent Jews who own chocolate shops in Brisbane, the children of Gaza or the people of Iran:

    "The Israeli army has completely blocked the delivery of urgently needed humanitarian aid and medical supplies to the Gaza Strip for more than a week. Very little fuel has been allowed in. Amnesty International urged the Israeli authorities on Friday to allow their immediate passage.

    "This latest tightening of the Israeli blockade has made an already dire humanitarian situation markedly worse. It is nothing short of collective punishment on Gaza's civilian population and it must stop immediately," said Philip Luther, Deputy Director of Amnesty International’s Middle East and North Africa Programme."

    Nobody has learnt nuffin:

    "Should we be unable to find a way to honest cooperation and honest pacts with the Arabs, then we have learned absolutely nothing during our two thousand years of suffering and deserve all that will come to us." ~ Einstein

    j

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  2. The checkpoints, security barriers, and attempts at blockades of Iranian offensive weapons to the murder gangs are a cultural optional extra for the Palestinians and other Arab Muslims. They can have it for as long as they want.

    Right now the ugly old men who control their lives want it very much. It takes the minds of the "street" off the far far worse misery the ugly men have imposed and the infinitely worse bloodshed Muslim regimes and entities routinely extract from one another and their own populations.

    What is going on in Europe and the UK is the oldest story in history. Ultimately it will be their own societies they will tear apart.

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  3. Anonymous6:10 PM

    Stopping weapons imports is one thing, withholding medical supplies is criminal.

    But that's nothing unusual for Zionists:

    50 Holocaust survivors die a day in Israel from Poverty and Loneliness

    They are better off in Germany than Israel as this charity shows. Each day 50 of them are dying in loneliness and poverty, forgotten in silence by all world around them.

    Holocaust survivors forced to eat out of bins while Israeli government pockets compensation money

    "About 80,000 Holocaust survivors emigrated to Israel after WW2. Instead of finding ease and opportunity, many discovered only loneliness and grinding poverty. They accuse Israel of failing to give them the compensation paid by Germany. They say millions of dollars that was meant for them has been used to build the country instead.
    In 1952 Germany and Israel signed an agreement. $US 800 million poured into the young Jewish state.
    Pressure from the survivors finally forced the government to give some of this compensation to Holocaust victims."

    Holocaust survivors accuse State of stealing their welfare funds

    "Survivors promised $7.7 million in 2007, but records show they received only half that amount. Government offices vow they transferred full amount to Finance Ministry, which says survivors were only slated to receive $3.8 million."

    That above is sad but comes as no surprise for the Zionist leadership during WW2 could have saved hundreds of thousands of Jews for just $2 per head, but couldn't be bothered:

    Holocaust Victims Accuse


    "Since the existence of Zionism, one constant trend of thought has been the direction of Weizmann, Greenbaum, Sharett, Ben Gurion, Ehrenpreisz, Kastner, Stephen Wise, the councils in the ghettoes and the rescue committees of the free world: The only yearning was for the State. The people as a whole, or a segment thereof, were merely the means for the realization of a “homeland”. Whoever did not serve this purpose might as well have not been created."

    It would be a safe bet those surviving holocaust victims would be far better of living in Iran as well as Germany - anywhere but Israel.

    It would appear them crazy self obsessed ideological Zionist extremists are quite happy to milk the holocaust till the cows come home, yet turn their backs on (and rob) the poverty stricken survivors as they die in poverty - but that's the Zionists mindset - sick, greedy and indifferent. A mind set where all Jews are subordinated by ideology. Those Jews who don't agree are anti-semites. This is how some Islamic societies operate, those societies Zionists find repugnant.


    Now, if this is how Zionists treat holocaust survivors what chance Palestinians?

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    1. This very subject was in the paper on the weekend, Justin.

      About quarter of a million Holocaust survivors live in Israel, with 90 per cent of them now over the age of 75. The point of the piece was that most of them are living their last days, and dying, in extreme poverty. Some of them were quoted making the link between starving in camps and now starving in their old age in Israel - pretty horrible, and how must that feel?

      This stands in perverse contrast to the growing group of life-time welfare recipients - the ultra-orthodox Jews (the Haredi??); a huge problem for the Israeli budget. Guess they can't afford much for the elderly survivors of WWII. They did increase the budget for them a little, but didn't sound like much to me, the equivalent of a few dollars for each.

      I don't know anything about their economy, other than the constant boasts that they are wealthy and smarter and more innovative than any other country. So, I don't understand why they can't make the lives of every Holocaust survivor in their care as comfortable as possible. I hope the problem isn't forgotten, buried.

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  4. Anonymous7:07 PM

    Looks like them pesky wogs are getting on the band wagon:

    Israel's Key Energy Provider, Egypt, Cuts Off All Natural Gas Supplies

    j

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    1. Yes, having basic utilities is pot luck, mostly pot blackout, rather than luck. Electricity is only available sporadically, isn't it?

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  5. Anonymous8:12 PM

    The Israeli treatment of holocaust survivors betrays everything those looney Zionists claim to be. And the thing that is really disgusting is the way they have exploited Hitler, and the holocaust for their own greedy interests, and once again turned their backs on these poor souls, and robbed them of their compensation.

    That's just like Fats, they would rather spend the money on nuclear weapons and the military than allow these poor souls to live their days out without having to beg, and starve as they did in Nazi Germany.

    Zionists are pathological frauds.

    Einstein was correct all along:

    Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine.

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  6. Anonymous9:27 PM

    And a final word for dear old Geoff and his juvenile mates.

    Mate, you have said on a number occasions that this topic is beyond me, beyond my intellectual capabilities and stuff like that, you always claim to be correct. Those who challenge your obsession are labelled arse wipes etc. etc. etc.

    However, with yours truly being Tasmanian and all, then it would be a safe bet (objectively speaking) that your analysis of my Tasmanian mentality is absolutely correct. I may or may not be an arse wipe, but yes, I'm fucked in the head, no use pretending.

    So what does one do when one has to come to terms with one's own stupidity, one's ignorance?

    One seeks council with some one who is far better informed than one self. An intellectual icon with bona fides would be best, especially one that was Jewish, don't you think?


    So who should one choose to believe when it comes to understanding the sick and twisted goals of Zionism:

    Geoff and his dopey mates, or Einstein?


    Again, simply because Mr Herzl is a very slow learner:

    Among the most disturbing political phenomena of our times is the emergence in the newly created state of Israel of the "Freedom Party" (Tnuat Haherut), a political party closely akin in its organization, methods, political philosophy and social appeal to the Nazi and Fascist parties. It was formed out of the membership and following of the former Irgun Zvai Leumi, a terrorist, right-wing, chauvinist organization in Palestine...

    ..The discrepancies between the bold claims now being made by Begin and his party, and their record of past performance in Palestine bear the imprint of no ordinary political party. This is the unmistakable stamp of a Fascist party for whom terrorism (against Jews, Arabs, and British alike), and misrepresentation are means, and a "Leader State" is the goal. ~ Albert Einstein & others

    "Should we be unable to find a way to honest cooperation and honest pacts with the Arabs, then we have learned absolutely nothing during our two thousand years of suffering and deserve all that will come to us." Einstein



    Not rocket science, is it?



    j

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  7. You're a mindless bigot Justin. Everything you say is full of shit. A few thousand pensioners exercise their rights to protest about pensions in a vibrant democracy and you go into a spitting rage about Zionists exploiting Hitler and the Holocaust. You therefore prove the point against you.

    Hello? Democracy? Freedom of speech? Old Jewish ladies having their say in peace with the full protection of the state and getting the ear of the state?

    You just don't get that do you? It is beyond you intellectually and mate, sorry, that's not my fault.

    You really hate that don't you fella? You just can't stand it. Jews do not have the same rights as you. Maybe over here if they keep their noses clean, and don't overtly support the Zionist entity's right to exist (in which case they will cop what they deserve) but certainly not over there.


    Newsflash fella. Israeli pensioners (including survivors) are better off with social services, health, accomodation and standard of living than Australian age pensioners and even repat pensioners which is not bad considering that Australia has a higher GDP per capita. They are substantially better off than the equivalent in the UK.

    But why the fuck should I justify this to you?

    What fucking business is it of yours anyway? You don't give a fuck. You have already made it clear you want Israel destroyed and therefore you must welcome the slaughter of the Middle East Jews, refugees from Arab countries, Holocaust survivors and all.

    In fact you are obsessed with this. I am too but I want peace. Yuo want war. It is essential for your psycology that the Jews must be blamed. This is a non-negotiable for people like you. It trumps everything else. Human rights. Terrorism. War. Women's rights. Everything.

    Einstein was a proud Zionist who at one stage seriously considered an offer of presidency of the Jewish state. As a proud Zionist he freely expressed his opinion on Zionist politics in public like every other Zionist and for that matter every other liberal democrat.

    You just don't get that either. It's beyond you. Because there is this vast wealth of material generated by free and democratic Zionists freely expressing themselves you deduce there is something fundamentally wrong with Zionism.

    Hello?

    I've had your Holocaust shit btw. You and people like you just can't leave it alone. It's a slander and a lie that Israel exploits it and this is a classic antisemitic canard and your claims that the "Zionists" colluded with the Nazis in the Holocaust goes way beyond pig ignorance. The Holocaust would have to be the most examined and documented event in all of history. Nothing has been covered up. This claim, manufactured in the usual way, by picking a grain of sand with a pair of tweezers from a beach, putting it on the lensof a telescope and squinting, approaches Holocaust denial in vile degeneracy and like Holocaust denial I will not respond to it on its level.

    I've had it with you pal. You have shown not the slightest human that other commenters at the blog might have excellent cause to find this stuff distressful. Your emotional IQ is as low as your rational IQ. I'm sick of you lifting and pasting this crap on my blog 20 times a month. Any vile comment from you about the Holocaust on my blog will be deleted. Any crap that the Jews had or have no right to form a state will be blown out of the arse of the blog like a dose of salts.

    Hey. Call me a fascist. Make my day.

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  8. Hi Caz. It might be that a comment I left here ended in your spam box

    Either that or I out-fascisted myself.

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    1. Restored Geoffff - spam even took exception to you noting that previous comment may have gone into spam ... bloody tetchy!

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  9. Anonymous6:24 PM

    Yes Geoff, but you refuse to address the subject matter (always), rather you have a hissy fit and resort to threats and abuse. That is the behaviour of a very immature and insecure soul.

    Such behaviour is what one would expect when confronting a pathological narcissist with cold hard facts.

    Chaim Michael Dov Weissmandl

    Since the business of the Working Group required a continuous supply of large sums of money, they turned to the international Jewish organizations for help, via their representatives in Switzerland. Weissmandl claimed that too little money was provided too late and that this was due to the indifference of those he asked. Specifically, he accused the Zionist organizations of refusing to assist in saving Jews unless they were to go to Palestine. Weissmandl supported his allegations by quoting letters from memory, and some historians such as Bauer had doubt in the accuracy of his account.[6] Other historians, such as Fuchs and Kranzler, accepted Rabbi Weissmandl's word. Wiki.

    Of course my bold makes sense when one considers the Zionist mindset, and the overriding obsession to populate Israel:

    If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel." Ben Gurion

    You don't have to be Einstein.

    I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. …the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power….I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain – especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ~ ranks… ~ Einstein

    Geoff, if Einstein had accepted the gig he would have probably been murdered by a right wing Zionist nutter, as was Rabin - Zionist (Revisionists) don't want peace - they want everything.


    Should we be unable to find a way to honest cooperation and honest pacts with the Arabs, then we have learned absolutely nothing during our two thousand years of suffering and deserve all that will come to us." ~ Einstein

    Yep Einstein would have been topped in no time flat.

    j

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  10. Anonymous11:08 PM

    Hey Geoff, let's make a deal, and solve our differences once and for all, regarding that Nazi stuff.

    Now that you have your own blog why not contact Lenni Brenner and invite him to debate the authenticity of his book with you, that book which incriminates Zionists (although not the only reference to historical record that does same), which clearly demonstrates that Mr Herzl's final solution of promoting anti-semtism was taken seriously.

    Geoff, as you are of far superior intelligence than yours truly, and Lenni is probably just another Jewish anti-semitic you know what, then I'm sure you'll have no time in deconstructing Lenni's book, and making me look like the fuck wit I truly am.

    Now, if you are prepared to do the above and succeed in proving 51 Documents fraudulent then I will sincerely apologise for so gullible.

    Of course if you have the courage to take on this challenge and fail then you will have to get rid of that pic of the scary dude from your blog.

    This will be the second time I have challenged you to do this.

    So Geoff, it's up to you, man up, and let's see what you can really do with that blogggg of yours.

    Here's looking at you kid.



    Mr Herzzzl

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  11. Why on earth would I want to make you look like a fuckwit, Justin? What in it for me, especially since the job has already been so thoroughly done?

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  12. O no! I'm starting to channel Justin! I can't fight it I tell you. It's like being posssessed by a beached white supremicist jellyfish with a messiah complex. It's like ... I've never seen something so deluded, twisted and ug .. It's terrible !! There is no God!! .. only ...

    [eyes roll back in head. A strange eery light fills the room. A stomach churning stink of burnt mangy wombat ..]

    "hey listen you whiny cry baby blackfellas. All we ever hear is whinge whinge whinge. You'd think the Myall Creek massacre was the only bad in all of history listening to you bunch of big shirt blouses. Genocide in Tasmania? 60% of the mainland population slaughtered. or 80%?. Whatever. You're hardly Robinson Crusoe. Welcome to the human race. Now listen, nobody loves a dead blackfella more than me but maybe if so many of your leaders didn't collude with the Nazi imperialists it mightn't be so bad. We've had with your evil land rights demands. Admit it. It's an industry for ripping the rest of us off and trying to make us look bad. Here's proof. 51 letters from Benenlong telling the brits to stick it to his mates in return for a blanket in the outhouse. Proof! Deny it! Come on smart fellas! Prove it ain't true.

    "Don't tell me about suffering. I married a chinamen and you guys can't hold a candle to the pumpkin's suffering. No competition! We win! We're the great sufferers around here so shut the fuck up and give the indigenous Irish a go. Go to this blog and you will see the Irish catholics were here thirty thousand years before you blackfella land grabbers anyway. Prove it ain't true !! "

    [Shakes head vilently, wretches and opens eyes]

    O hello. Did I say something?

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  13. I wouldn't be bothered dignifying the aging crackpot lifelong Trotskyite, Lenni Brenner, by raising the silly little book on my blog. Why should I? Just to show how silly you are? Everybody there already knows that. You don't grab the village idiot up on stage to show he's an idiot just because he demands it.

    But here is (another) reply about Lenni. This time a full one (seeing it's so easy).

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    This book, compiled by a self-proclaimed Trotskyist, is ridiculous. Indeed, only a Trotskyist sectarian purist could edit a volume like this.

    The book contains 51 documents, of varied quality and relevance, supposedly proving that the Zionists collaborated with the Nazis. Really?

    In reality, of course, most Zionists did no such thing. The Revisionist leader Jabotinsky called for an economic boycott of Nazi Germany. The Labor Zionists supported the Allies during World War Two. Zionists participated in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, while others joined Communist partisan units. And, of course, the Zionist idea that Jews can be safe only in their own state, was ultimately proven right. Without this context in mind, the documents presented by Brenner are in effect a subtle way of suggesting that the Jews were responsible for the Holocaust. In reality, both Labor and the Revisionists smuggled Jews out of Nazi-infested Europe.

    So Brenner is a Trotskyist. Now, there was a small Trotskyist group in Albania which supported Mussolini, and later joined the right-wing, anti-Communist resistance group Balli Kombëtar. There were also Trotskyists who, after the war, expressed support for the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA), a fascist organization. What conclusions should we draw from this? That Trotskyists in general were Nazi collaborators?

    (to be continued)

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    What have Brenner come up with, then? Not much. Naturally, he spends an entire section of the book exposing the Stern gang (Lehi). But this group was very small and was disarmed by the Labor Zionists in 1948. That the Stern gang proposed collaboration with the Nazis in 1940 and 1941 is therefore as irrelevant as Albanian Trotskyists joining an anti-Communist resistance group after first praising Mussolini. Besides, the whole point of Lehi's proposal was that they would side with the Nazis only if Hitler agreed to resettle all Jews in Palestine. Since that never happened, the deal was off. No actual collaboration took place.

    Next, Brenner attempts to implicate the Labor Zionists in Nazi collaboration. However, the documents he presents rather show that Labor attempted to save Jews by getting them out of Germany. Unfortunately but unsurprisingly, there was a catch: the Zionists had to buy German goods in return for every Jew being allowed to emigrate. This broke the trade boycott against Germany called by many progressive groups. The abstract sectarian Trotskyist Brenner doesn't appreciate the moral dilemma of the situation: should one uphold a trade boycott even if it means sacrificing Jews? Or should one try to save as many as possible, even if it means paying the Nazis? Only a stupid Trot like Brenner could suggest, that the only solution is...yes, what? Socialist revolution? In Germany 1936?

    A similar dilemma exists in the case of Rudolph Kastner, whose case is still controversial. Kastner negotiated with the notorious Adolf Eichmann, and managed to save perhaps 2000 mostly Hungarian Jews from being killed by the Nazis. However, the rest of Hungarian Jewry was exterminated. Kastner had to "play God" and decide who was to live and who was to die. Also, he had to promise Eichmann to "uphold order in the concentration camps". The original deal between the two stipulated that one million Jews would be spared in exchange for 10,000 trucks for the Nazi army. When the trucks failed to materialize, most Jews were transported to the death camps. Still today, Jews are divided over how judge Kastner, who became a government official in Israel after the war. Was he a tragic hero? Or a cynical collaborator? The fact that Kastner appeared as a witness in favor of SS war criminals have lead many to belive the latter. But even so, Kastner was hardly identical with all of Zionism. Incidentally, Kastner was assasinated when details of his deal with Eichmann leaked out.

    When the Nazis came to power in 1933, they didn't have a clear position on the Jewish question beyond apartheid. Exclusively Jewish concentration camps were set up in 1938, the Final Solution was decided upon in 1942. Until that time, different ideas existed within the Nazi leadership about what to do with the Jews. Some wanted them expelled to a foreign country, perhaps Madagascar (at the time controlled by Vichy France). This made it possible for Zionists to attempt a "deal with the Devil": since some Nazis wanted to extradite all Jews from Germany, why not propose that they be transferred to Palestine? Today, we know that this was a naive proposal. But not even Brenner's hero Trotsky predicted the Holocaust. At the time, an transfer agreement seemed like an idea worth trying. Ironically, the Holocaust proved that all attempts to get the Jews out of Germany, no matter how naive, were at some level justified.

    (to be continued)

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    Some documents in this book are frankly ridiculous. Please note that the point is to prove Zionist collaboration with Nazis. But Brenner has also included documents about Revisionist collaboration with Fascist Italy and Imperial Japan! Brenner never explains that Fascist Italy wasn't anti-Semitic, nor a fully committed ally to the Nazis, until the eve of World War Two (the documents cited are from before that). Nor does he explain that Imperial Japan didn't exterminate Jews in Manchuria. These documents tell us much about the antics of right-wing nationalists, but nothing about collaboration with Holocaust-mongers.

    Finally, I must protest against the naivety of the editor of this anthology. He seems morally outraged by the fact that Zionists can even comtemplate some kind of deal with Nazis, no matter the purpose. But please, comrade. The Bolsheviks made secret deals with both Imperial Germany and the Weimar Republic, both equally anti-Communist, and also with the rogue Ottoman adventurer Kemal Pasha, or the anti-Communist Turkish nationalist Kemal Atatürk. The Bolsheviks took money from Wall Street banks, and even attempted to collaborate with Labor Zionists in Palestine! And during all of this, a certain Leo Trotsky was one of the leaders of the Soviet Bolshevik regime... Trotsky even supported the creation of an "anti-imperialist united front" with Chiang Kai-shek. On that point, he later changed his mind. But not on the others.

    Is Lenni Brenner upset about this? Or was this "all for a good cause"?

    By all means, buy this book. The documents are interesting in and of themselves. But that's about it...

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    Now how easy was that or what?:

    http://www.amazon.com/review/R5QCQIUQ5OS5O/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R5QCQIUQ5OS5O

    By all means feel free to pass this on to your Trot mate yourself, if he's still alive. Frankly I don't care. You won't get a reply even if his. These people never do. I don't care about that either.

    Justin, it's not that I am of far superior intelligence to you. It's just that you are so dumb. Most people have no difficulty at all grasping these concepts. As Orwell would have said, you had to be an intellectual to be so stupid not to.

    Either that or a Trotskyite. I've noticed you have a bit of a penchant for quoting Trots. With approval. You wouldn't have a nasty dose of the Trots yourself by any chance?

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  16. Anonymous7:02 PM

    You're no fun Geoff. Is that the best you can do? A cut a paste from the comments blog by some one called: Ashtar Command "Seeker". I bet he's not Einstein: he does contradict himself, omits stuff, and presents propositions that are intentionally misleading:

    Some documents in this book are frankly ridiculous. Please note that the point is to prove Zionist collaboration with Nazis But Brenner has also included documents about Revisionist collaboration with Fascist Italy...


    That's rubbish, as the point of the book was to expose BOTH the relationship Zionists had with both Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany. Jabotinsky in fact admired the Fascist business model, sent the military to Italy to train, and so on. Something that was simply part of the book's subject matter.

    Jabotinsky is obviously not on his own.

    Never mind Geoff, it will all go away - one day soon.

    Here's looking at y...

    ...shit, I feel a neocon coming ...I gotta ruuuuuuuuuunnnnnn...ooops, $%# &^%*!!!!!!!!!

    j

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  17. Hey matey, he's no more anonymous than you are, makes a lot more sense and at least has read the Trot book.

    So let me put the argument in my own words.

    Brenner is a FUCKING TROTSKYITE !!

    But I can see you're on to us. It's all a giant conspiracy to silence everyone about the Truffff. Darn! Those bloody Trots. They're just too smart for us.

    A new political movement by Justin:

    Trots and Trolls for the Truffff

    Jabotinsky was an anglophile who put a plot to MI6 to kill Hitler using Revisionist Zionist agents in Berlin. He died in 1940. Some fascist. Some collaborator. Mind you, you once descibed a photo of Jabotinsky wearing a WW1 British officer's uniform you linked as "wearing a fascist-style uniform".

    Sure you said, when caught out. All military uniforms are fascist.

    What type uniform did Trotsky wear when he was head of the Red Army? Was that a peace loving, progressive, hero of the people, anti-fascist-style uniform?

    Trots are so cute. Quaint really, you know, the way they talk 1930's and all. They're like living time capsules.

    But I'm bored with this, Justin. Last comment from me arguing about Trot books. I haven't done that since I was 19 and only then because I always kept an ice pick handy in case of an emergency.

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  18. Anonymous11:32 PM

    Jabotinsky was an anglophile...

    During World War I, he conceived the idea of establishing a Jewish Legion to fight alongside the British against the Ottomans who then controlled Palestine. Wiki

    Let's say he needed the military aid of the British, just like Israel needs US military aid today.

    Now, Jabotinsky admits in his autobiography:

    If I have a spiritual homeland, it is Italy, much more than Russia.... All my views on nationalism, the state, and society were developed during those year under Italian influence; it was there that I learned to love the art of the architect, the sculptor, and the painter, as well as the Latin song.... At the university my teachers were Antonio Labriola and Enrico Ferri, and the belief in the justice of the socialist system, which they implanted in my heart, I kept as self-evident until it became utterly destroyed by the Red experience in Russia. The legend of Garibaldi, the writings of Mazzini, the poetry of Leopardi andGiusti have enriched and deepened my superficial Zionism; from an instinctive feeling they made it into a doctrine. Will Israel Outlive Its Fascists? Jabotinsky: Mussolini's Favorite

    Some anglophile, not one mention of them lying two faced pommie bastards anywhere, but he did believe in the justice of the socialist system, which was planted into his bleeding leftie heart:


    That would make (by definition) Jabotinsky a self confessed pinko - you must hate him Geoff. But a fucking anglophile he was never...

    OOOppppps, I gota ruuuuuuuuuuunnnnnnnnnnnnnn....

    j

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  19. Anonymous7:28 PM

    So what did Jabawocky do when his faith in socialism was "utterly destroyed"? He turned nasty, even before nasty was invented, which was not lost on the father of Israel himself:


    "In 1948, after decades of terror and fascism, Prime Minister David Gen-Gurion, the father of Israel, who had publicly labelled Jabotinsky "Vladimir Hitler," outlawed the Revisionist party as a threat to the fledgling state. But, today, the "Great Game" is being played much as it was in the 1920s and 1930s. Jabotinsky's followers were brought back as the Herut party, which later became the Likud."

    And who is the current Prime Minister of Israel and Chairman of the Likud mob?

    And who has been mentored by a fascist father?

    Netanyahu's father Benzion (now deceased), who has been described as Bibi's personal mentor as well as his political advisor, was a supporter of fascism as a young man in Palestine in the 1920s.

    Yep it would most definitely appear Einstein was right all along. Zionist Revionists are fascists, especially the current mob - it's hardwired into their very superior genes.

    BTW, how's the book review going Geoff?

    Game, set and match; thank you Einstein, thank you ball boys, and thanks for the historical record.


    Gotta run, another neocon on the way.....



    j

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  20. Justin moves from a Trotskyite crackpot as his linked authority to, you won't believe this, LAROUCHE!



    Robert J. Alexander writes that LaRouche first established an NCLC "intelligence network" in 1971. Members all over the world would send information to NCLC headquarters, which would distribute it via briefings and other publications.LaRouche organized the network as a series of news services and magazines, which commentators say was done to gain access to government officials under press cover.[21]



    They included Executive Intelligence Review, founded in 1974 and known for its conspiracy theories, including that Queen Elizabeth II is the head of an international drug-smuggling cartel, and that the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing was part of a British attempt to take over the United States.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_LaRouche

    Book review? Finished and posted. Short term memory problem again Justin? Here it is again.

    Brenner is a FUCKING TROTSKYITE !!

    But at least he's not Larouche. I don't think.

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  21. Oh, Breinhart's book you mean? Yeah I know about this book but I haven't read it. A reply will be forthcoming at the Bar and Grill in due course. Or should I say in jew course.

    I think I saw somewhere that Breinhart had been accused by someone eminent who has read the book of ignoring Palestinian intransigence on the two state solution, antisemitism, Islamic extremism and violence in his thesis. Terrible flaws if true but Breinhart has denied it.

    Patience Justin patience. Perhaps someone who has read the book will give you what you want but for the record, once again, I have been an outspoken advocate for the two state solution and of course think that the status quo can not be sustained indefinitely.

    I just wish the Palestinians and Muslims could see that.

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  22. havw been an outspoken advocate for the two state solution since the seventies ...

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  23. In Australia, it is the crank way out silly Citizens Electoral Council that flies the Larouche colours.

    http://www.cecaust.com.au/

    ... and Justin of course.

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  24. struth look what these guys say about the flu vaccine.

    http://cecaust.com.au/main.asp?sub=articles&id=Background_pandemic_threat.html

    they make Justin look, you know, almost coherent.

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